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Old 12-06-2018, 04:09 PM   #1
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Does anyone know of a source where I can get NEUTRAL spiritual advice or guidance?
Please don't recommend anyone who tries to convert people or who tries to prove atheism is right. I need a neutral person or resource that would help me find my own answers.

I have Already read and studied many religions, even taken a few uni courses about comparative religion and critical analysis of religion, as well as anthropology of religion. Intellectual study isn't helpful for my personal spirituality at all.

Naturally, I have read some sacred texts and prayed.

I need something or someone like a NEUTRAL "spiritual therapy".

It's terrible that we are not allowed to discuss anything on this forum :-((( can anyone help me and recommend something that would help me?
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I'm sorry you're struggling, seeker33 I hope you'll find what you're looking for
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Thank you, MickeyCheeky.

I know I'm perhaps being annoying with this topic. I keep complaining about something that seems to be clear or unimportant to everyone else. I really have no idea where to look for help or support. This is causing me real pain. My T isn't the right person to talk about this. She isn't really knowledgeable in this area and whenever we talk I either have to explain basic definitions (wasting time) or she tries to push me into atheism or new age.



I'm more oriented towards mystical Christianity but in an unorthodox way and I'm not too sure about that, either I'm not even allowed to talk about it here!



It got worse again now when Christmas is coming and I have to listen to carols and such... when my mum is going to spend it in hospital getting chemotherapy...



I'm sorry for bothering everyone with this struggle.
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You're not bothering anyone, seeker33. Please keep sharing and venting here. We'll listen to what you have to say. We care about you. Sending many hugs
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Seeker33, I used to have schizoaffective symptoms. I believed the devil was in me and Jesus was his brother. I was way messed up with fear and psychosis. This was 20 years ago. I prayed a lot but felt like nobody who cared was listening. Totally felt lost.

Today I'm still on lithium for my mood swings but my doctor and I have reduced my Abilify from 30mg to 5mg. I feel whole, my mind is clear and I am not scared anymore. And further, I know the truth about life. I'm back to normal, with a better view on my spirituality than ever.

And I'll tell you, I don't know what I can say and what I can't say here on the forum. But I imagine I can't say much, or else this whole message may get edited/deleted. Your name is "seeker", and that's such an honest name for what you are doing. You're seeking the truth. God will honor that, believe me. Pray to God for his revelation of who he is. He loves you, He knows you, He is drawing you near to him.

I'm living proof that God heals. God bless!!
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Does anyone know of a source where I can get NEUTRAL spiritual advice or guidance?
Please don't recommend anyone who tries to convert people or who tries to prove atheism is right. I need a neutral person or resource that would help me find my own answers.

I have Already read and studied many religions, even taken a few uni courses about comparative religion and critical analysis of religion, as well as anthropology of religion. Intellectual study isn't helpful for my personal spirituality at all.

Naturally, I have read some sacred texts and prayed.

I need something or someone like a NEUTRAL "spiritual therapy".

It's terrible that we are not allowed to discuss anything on this forum :-((( can anyone help me and recommend something that would help me?
Thank you for presenting this as a proposition of something that exists. The idea of "neutral spirituality" does exists. I believe it to be an internal understanding. Having sought guidance through spirituality in different places, I have found most teachings to be one-sided and/or bias. Although, all have inspired thought through different modes of gaining and circulating energy, they often are most interested in converting to a singular way of thinking.

-My belief is that Intellectual and Spiritual gain may happen concurrently, and also may evolve within any individual over time. There are parameters to what extent I can understand my own beliefs, but objectively, I have found my own spirituality within the teaching of others through meditation, prayer, faith, worship, and texts. With focus, concentration and a sense of inner peace, practicing spiritually has become very fulfilling
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But how can I trust in spirituality? I need a kind of spiritually that is personal (ie Christian) however I don't trust God at all. At the same time while practising mindfulness is cool and feels good, it doesn't have any deeper meaning to me. It's just a psychological tool, no spiritual meaning in it for me.
I need to have a real faith or belief, but everything causes me massive stress and anxiety and OCD.
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I am sorry you are questioning your spirituality>? I struggle with understanding my own too. Trusting God is not the same as understanding the existence of God, and learning to trust. As with anything, the more something is practiced, the more that is gained. Maybe try a different setting, time of day, or technique. I can't take it when watching someone try the same thing over and over again and expect different results. Not saying that is what you are doing, but am reminded of why I shake my responsibilities and regress into OCD tendencies. Thank you for the reminder. I will continue to practice mindfulness
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Have you read - An Altar in the World by Barbara Brown Taylor?
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I think Sam Harris has books and podcasts on this. Check them out.
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