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Old 10-16-2018, 04:39 PM   #1
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How do you find your spirituality? What does spirituality even mean?

Its something I'm interested in exploring, but I dont know where to start. I really just dont understand it. I would love some guidance, ideas, perspectives.
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Old 10-16-2018, 10:32 PM   #2
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Hi. I wish I could tell you how but, for me, my spiritual journey didn't start until I hit rock bottom with my drinking, then began attending AA meetings. From there I started to get into Buddhism. But I never would've gotten into Buddhism in the first place, had I not hit the rock bottom, so yes. Maybe start by drinking very heavily all the time until it destroys everything in your life? Just kidding :-)

There was a well known spiritual teacher named Osho whose teachings really inspired me, too. There's a lot of his ideas on the internet. Maybe you could look there?
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I myself struggle with spirituality greatly. I need it, I'm fascinated by it but it's incredibly scary and triggering at the same time.
Maybe start with mindfulness as connecting to one's environment and senses is very important.
Then do research on sacred texts (it's forbidden and censored to mention them here).
There are also modern versions of ancient practices of paganism, witchcraft, shamanism.

Anyway, don't expect any answers on this forum because any kind of discussion is basically forbidden and censored. We are only allowed to mention Buddhism and vague "meditation" practice, nothing else.

If you are interested in real discussion find forums of specific religion you're interested in. However most forums have their narrow perspective and if you cross it you'll be banned. Some do allow more open discussion but once you start you may literally be engulfed in it and spend hours and hours (or years) arguing about philosophy that no one can know or prove. I've spent a great amount of time on such forums debating and I believe it has made my mental issues worse.
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I struggled with organised mainstream religion all through my childhood. I just knew deep down it neither made sense to me and felt totally wrong. In university though I enrolled in a Philosophy of Religion course. Not only did we do a broad exposure to world religions but we learned about how religion came to be and developed. For example, the idea of the anthropomorphism of God which basically is an understanding and theory that man created God in his own image and not the reverse. Anyway, something to discuss elsewhere. but, it really moved and spoke to me. Finally I had some answers and a discovery. It wasn't then about what I believed in but what I wasn't prepared to. For years I continued reading and exploring religion and spirituality until finally a form of practise I could feel comfortable with fell into my lap. It felt right and was a sense of coming home.

I am of the opinion that one should discover a belief system on their own. It is upsetting to me that people blindly accept what they are fed simply because that is what they were dragged to in childhood and told to. There are aspects then of mainstream religion that I find disturbing for this very reason. I am a preacher's daughter yet my father encouraged me to educate myself and come up with my own choice of how to celebrate the creative spirit even if it differed from his own.

Might I suggest a visit to BeliefNet and take a gander at their quiz. It is quite eye opening and educational.

Beliefnet: Belief-O-Matic, Religion Beliefs, What Religion Am I Quiz - Beliefnet

Anyway, enjoy your journey. A path that you are comfortable with will present itself.

And yes, one can be deeply spiritual yet not religious. I include myself in this.
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How do you find your spirituality? What does spirituality even mean?

Spirituality is becoming aware (to varying degrees) of the transcendental aspect or nature of your existence... The awareness of having an existence above and independent of the physical body and even this individual human lifetime... It's consciously connecting with the aspect of you which survives physical death, the aspect of you which is timeless and eternal...

How do you find spirituality? By steering and guiding your state of awareness in the direction of relinquishing attachments to the physical body, the physical mind (brain), and to limiting beliefs and perceptions which previously served to restrict your awareness... Also through conducting inner-work (deep contemplation, reflection, introspection, questioning things, releasing stored mental/emotional energy)... Many people find themselves moving in this direction due to experiencing suffering or some set of life circumstances that influences them to question and challenge their previous way of perceiving themselves and the world. Usually a crisis of some sorts... Could be a devastating divorce, a midlife existential crisis, a terminal illness, prolonged suffering, etc...

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Its something I'm interested in exploring, but I dont know where to start. I really just dont understand it. I would love some guidance, ideas, perspectives.
Joining a religion and claiming some religious title for yourself and subjecting yourself to all of the dogma and doctrines of everyone else who claims that religion and title - this is unnecessary and in many contexts will be counterproductive and limiting... There's also no guarantee that religious identification will lead to spiritual growth...

As far as something you can explore which doesn't have any doctrines to follow or dogma to adhere to, and no titles for you to adopt - I would recommend researching the literature and accounts surrounding Near Death Experiences.... Lots of Youtube Channels featuring long NDE accounts from experiencers... There are also a lot of reputable researchers out there who have been studying this field or phenomena for 2-3 decades (Kenneth Ring, Bruce Greyson, PMH Atwater, Sam Parnia, Pim Van Lommel, etc)... Deeply contemplating the implications that stem from these types of special transcendental experiences over an extended period of time can absolutely have a profoundly transformative effect on your state of being (I know it did in my life experience)....
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I think it's something that must come to you. I've lost my spirituality many times. So far it's always come back. It just takes time. Sometimes years.
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I don't think there's a "way"... it probably just naturally comes to some people.
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"There's as many ways to God as there are people in this world."

I don't know how to tell you what you should do to get there. I don't think anyone can - and like the Dread Pirate Robert says in 'The Princess Bride' - "Life is pain. And anyone who tells you differently is trying to sell you something."

I'm still on the long journey to connect with the Creator - coming from an unshakable Atheism - it was only when I started to looking for the answers to the why's did I start to doubt everything that I was certain of... some people don't ever leave it, and that's cool too - no judgement. For myself, I had to walk through hell, and keep walking before I finally heard the whisper in my heart... but everyone's different.
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Spirituality is becoming aware (to varying degrees) of the transcendental aspect or nature of your existence... The awareness of having an existence above and independent of the physical body and even this individual human lifetime... It's consciously connecting with the aspect of you which survives physical death, the aspect of you which is timeless and eternal...

How do you find spirituality? By steering and guiding your state of awareness in the direction of relinquishing attachments to the physical body, the physical mind (brain), and to limiting beliefs and perceptions which previously served to restrict your awareness... Also through conducting inner-work (deep contemplation, reflection, introspection, questioning things, releasing stored mental/emotional energy)... Many people find themselves moving in this direction due to experiencing suffering or some set of life circumstances that influences them to question and challenge their previous way of perceiving themselves and the world. Usually a crisis of some sorts... Could be a devastating divorce, a midlife existential crisis, a terminal illness, prolonged suffering, etc...



Joining a religion and claiming some religious title for yourself and subjecting yourself to all of the dogma and doctrines of everyone else who claims that religion and title - this is unnecessary and in many contexts will be counterproductive and limiting... There's also no guarantee that religious identification will lead to spiritual growth...

As far as something you can explore which doesn't have any doctrines to follow or dogma to adhere to, and no titles for you to adopt - I would recommend researching the literature and accounts surrounding Near Death Experiences.... Lots of Youtube Channels featuring long NDE accounts from experiencers... There are also a lot of reputable researchers out there who have been studying this field or phenomena for 2-3 decades (Kenneth Ring, Bruce Greyson, PMH Atwater, Sam Parnia, Pim Van Lommel, etc)... Deeply contemplating the implications that stem from these types of special transcendental experiences over an extended period of time can absolutely have a profoundly transformative effect on your state of being (I know it did in my life experience)....
This is a wonderfully insightful and thoughtful post. I completely agree with you. I find NDE accounts intriguing and more compelling than anything I have ever heard in a church or other religious setting. Thank you for your post.
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