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Old 07-22-2018, 11:33 PM   #51
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If I believe and I turn out to be wrong, nothing is lost or gained.
But if you don't believe and you turn out to be wrong, what then?
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If I believe and I turn out to be wrong, nothing is lost or gained.
But if you don't believe and you turn out to be wrong, what then?
Purely rhetorical...
I am sympathetic to this argument, but there are some responses to it. It's up to you to decide whether these responses are valid.

One response is that people need a way to pick between many religions and they don't have one. Take just two religions - Islam and Christianity. A standard view of Islam says you have to worship Allah as the only god. If you worship anyone but Allah, you have a low chance of being saved. On the other hand, a standard view of Christianity says you have to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior to be saved. It might not be impossible to be saved in both Islam and Christianity but it's at least quite difficult. Now when you add in all the religions throughout the world and throughout history, how are you to know which religion will lead to your salvation?

Another response is if a person does not believe, there's no choice that person can make to cause the person to believe. Presumably, the belief we are talking about is something at a person's core. There's a lot a person can fake, but can a person fake the feelings at the core?
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what i 'know', i know; what i don't 'know', i don't know; i don't do 'believe'.

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Old 08-08-2018, 09:19 PM   #55
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I do believe. I do have faith. I'm not blind in either one. I am not clever or entertaining in my testimony, but I am steadfast and the result is joy and peace. I don't need others' approval, nor am I swayed or weakened by ridicule. I live to be an example, show love and compassion to others, and I have never found a life more worth living than that.
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I consider myself a gnostic Christian. I do believe in afterlife. I had a near death experience.
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Near death speaks of that something exists after life. If you think of a day going from day to night from sleeping to waking, what is always present is consciousness. The near death experiences seem to confirm that for me. So how can we know our consciousness and learn to focus on it? That is a question I ask myself.
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I've lived, died, and been reborn. I sort of remember a state in between. It was restrictive, static and brightly contrasted with yellow, black and red colours. I think I was the yellow and black, but I sort of bled into the red like it was all stitched together. It wasn't physical, but it wasn't ethereal either. It was more like I and everything else was made from plasma. I was the only thing that existed in that plane of reality, but not the only thing that existed "everywhere"; like there are multiple planes and this was just a pocket of this reality and not really outside of it. It felt like been inside an egg and I remember feeling feverish and tormented. It was also lacking spacial dimensions... maybe. It's hard to comprehend or remember.
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Our son died on January 12, 2018. Immediately upon his death, we all started feeling his presence. I could smell his cologne at the airport when we went there the day he died to pick up our daughter. His best friend could feel him. We could all sense him there. None of us have had this experience before our son passed. One day, I was thinking about a happy memory of him and I could feel him smile. It's feel-seeing or feel-see. It's when you feel something, but you also have a vision of what you feel. I wasn't seeing his smile from the memory, I was seeing the smile on his face at knowing I was remembering a happy time. My husband has never believed in the afterlife, until now, because he can feel-hear our son speak to him. Or perhaps he's just feeling what our son is feeling in that moment. He firmly believes in the afterlife now. It's also little things that happen. Our son spent a day with his best friend in the weeks before he left us in a garden where there were a lot of butterflies. There are photos of him with a butterfly on his hand. Those butterflies were in an enclosed garden type arboretum. A week after our son passed, that friend was seeing butterflies everywhere they went. Real butterflies, butterflies on t-shirts, butterfly decorations for your home, etc. And when that friend is sad, she frequently sees a butterfly. Those on the other side communicate with us, but we are conditioned to not notice that communication. And I think the deceased can re-direct things to us. I see dragonflies on my patio frequently. I believe my son re-directs them there to me.
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I believe in reincarnation. You become one with your higher self and then move on to another life. You wouldn't reincarnate as an insect or something like that because how it works is you reincarnate as something that's close to the same complexity as a human and you work your way up to more evolved lifeforms. I mean I guess you could reincarnate as an insect or something if you wanted to but we all reincarnate for learning and experience and we keep moving up. You have to go through lots of incarnations though. I mean you could probably choose not to reincarnate but we do it for learning and experience. Anyways that's what I believe what happens.
So the next life I can become an ET? I wish that were true, but honestly have no idea what my own conscious perception of reality will bring me when I cease to live. That I can say is the universal messages of my world are trying to tell me. Though I do question this since I once had a strange dream, as if it were a recollection of a past life. Then again I have to take everything with a grain of salt. I'm open to the many possibilities of the many theories that we hold, but then I have my teeter totter doubts in believing.
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