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Old 07-22-2018, 10:33 PM   #51
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If I believe and I turn out to be wrong, nothing is lost or gained.
But if you don't believe and you turn out to be wrong, what then?
Purely rhetorical...
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If I believe and I turn out to be wrong, nothing is lost or gained.
But if you don't believe and you turn out to be wrong, what then?
Purely rhetorical...
I am sympathetic to this argument, but there are some responses to it. It's up to you to decide whether these responses are valid.

One response is that people need a way to pick between many religions and they don't have one. Take just two religions - Islam and Christianity. A standard view of Islam says you have to worship Allah as the only god. If you worship anyone but Allah, you have a low chance of being saved. On the other hand, a standard view of Christianity says you have to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior to be saved. It might not be impossible to be saved in both Islam and Christianity but it's at least quite difficult. Now when you add in all the religions throughout the world and throughout history, how are you to know which religion will lead to your salvation?

Another response is if a person does not believe, there's no choice that person can make to cause the person to believe. Presumably, the belief we are talking about is something at a person's core. There's a lot a person can fake, but can a person fake the feelings at the core?
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what i 'know', i know; what i don't 'know', i don't know; i don't do 'believe'.

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I do believe. I do have faith. I'm not blind in either one. I am not clever or entertaining in my testimony, but I am steadfast and the result is joy and peace. I don't need others' approval, nor am I swayed or weakened by ridicule. I live to be an example, show love and compassion to others, and I have never found a life more worth living than that.
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I consider myself a gnostic Christian. I do believe in afterlife. I had a near death experience.
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Near death speaks of that something exists after life. If you think of a day going from day to night from sleeping to waking, what is always present is consciousness. The near death experiences seem to confirm that for me. So how can we know our consciousness and learn to focus on it? That is a question I ask myself.
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