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Old 11-11-2018, 04:00 AM #31
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I for one do not ever put responsibility on someone else if I had a willing part in it. I truly don't care what rules say or what job someone has. I'll never put responsibility on someone else in a case where I was willingly part.

This hasn't happened to me nor would it but I'm just merely saying in a hypothetical thing. I don't like people telling me who i should blame etc. I will decide that myself
you can think and believe what you want but I suggest you don't post stuff likw this. it's super triggering for those of us who have actually been thru this situation. actually it feels damaging

this is one of those things that you can never truly know what it's like unless it happens to you.
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I too would jump at the chance to have a relationship with my T if they allowed it even though I KNOW full well it would be a terrible decision with an inevitable negative outcome. That is the nature of transference/love. The feelings can be so powerful that logic and reasoning donít matter. The client is in such a vunerable position and the power dynamic is so uneven which is one of the reasons why itís unethical. Therapists are in a position of huge responsibility. They know the risks and the onus is completely on them to make sure that nothing does happen regardless of their actual feelings.
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I for one do not ever put responsibility on someone else if I had a willing part in it. I truly don't care what rules say or what job someone has. I'll never put responsibility on someone else in a case where I was willingly part.

This hasn't happened to me nor would it but I'm just merely saying in a hypothetical thing. I don't like people telling me who i should blame etc. I will decide that myself
I've told my T that I want to have an affair with him and a part of me is in love with him. Therapy clients are very very vulnerable. It's on the therapist to take responsibility and draw the line.
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I for one do not ever put responsibility on someone else if I had a willing part in it. I truly don't care what rules say or what job someone has. I'll never put responsibility on someone else in a case where I was willingly part.

This hasn't happened to me nor would it but I'm just merely saying in a hypothetical thing. I don't like people telling me who i should blame etc. I will decide that myself
I don't understand how this topic transformed from abuse of therapy's one sacrosanct taboo, to a personal requirement (from God almighty or an apparent unidentified "they") to blame someone.

But since this is a thread about enormous pain, consequence and violation, I hope we can respect and hear testimony from those courageous enough to explore it.
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I'm confused on how so many are blaming the therapist...where is the accountability for the patient??? I understand some may be at fault, but it takes two to tango. If I was in a position that I didn't feel comfortable or was inappropriate I'd tell them, and if I still felt off about it a week later I'd switch. There are some lines you don't cross. Morals and ethics are not one sided either.
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Informed Consent for Sex Between Health Professional and Patient or Client

ďThe possibility of "successful" relationships notwithstanding, one may indeed question whether the consent given in such relationships is truly informed, even to the extent typically expected for medical procedures. The following document is an example of what one might use to elicit such informed consent. I originally wrote this document as a tongue-in-cheek response to an attorney with whom I was informally debating this issue. Initially, I was reluctant to share it with victim/survivors, fearing that they might see it as traumatic or offensive. I found, however, that the document reflected the reality for many who had experienced such a sexual relationship, and I have been encouraged to disseminate it more widely. Read it, and ask yourself how many health professionals might be willing to solicit consent for a sexual relationship in this manner, and how many patients so informed might sign such a document.Ē ~ S. Michael Plaut, Ph.D.

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I'm confused on how so many are blaming the therapist...where is the accountability for the patient??? I understand some may be at fault, but it takes two to tango. If I was in a position that I didn't feel comfortable or was inappropriate I'd tell them, and if I still felt off about it a week later I'd switch. There are some lines you don't cross. Morals and ethics are not one sided either.
Some clients do resist. But the therapist/client relationship is inherently unequal. Many times the client is vulnerable and groomed.

Many U.S. states criminalize therapist/patient intimacies. It is a felony for a psychiatrist to have sex with a client in California, for example.

Licensing boards prohibit therapist/patient sex/exploitation. Different boards can have different rules about when or if a therapist and client may be intimate.

So itís not just my opinion...it can be criminal, disciplined by licensing boards and civilly actionable.

The therapist is trained to know therapist/client intimacies probably will hurt the client. Therapists are supposed to have their clientís best interest at heart.
It is absolutely 100% the therapistís responsibility to do no harm.
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I'm confused on how so many are blaming the therapist...where is the accountability for the patient??? I understand some may be at fault, but it takes two to tango. If I was in a position that I didn't feel comfortable or was inappropriate I'd tell them, and if I still felt off about it a week later I'd switch. There are some lines you don't cross. Morals and ethics are not one sided either.
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I'm confused on how so many are blaming the therapist...where is the accountability for the patient??? I understand some may be at fault, but it takes two to tango. If I was in a position that I didn't feel comfortable or was inappropriate I'd tell them, and if I still felt off about it a week later I'd switch. There are some lines you don't cross. Morals and ethics are not one sided either.
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I'm confused on how so many are blaming the therapist...where is the accountability for the patient??? I understand some may be at fault, but it takes two to tango. If I was in a position that I didn't feel comfortable or was inappropriate I'd tell them, and if I still felt off about it a week later I'd switch. There are some lines you don't cross. Morals and ethics are not one sided either.

Hey why not add to the blame festival by reproaching spouse abuse victims, cults escapees and anyone else fooled by a con artist or pulled into traumatic bonding?

I'm happy to learn of folks with such flawless judgment that they're immunized against any scam, charlatan or abuse of power. No wonder they visit this discussion to flaunt their infallibility.
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