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Old 04-20-2018, 07:56 AM   #11
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the "atypicals" are big business. shrinks, for their part, like to act as if they've got safe, effective, modern treatments. those factors combined = the 'atypicals' are being sprayed on people like crazy, and long term problems have popped up and are popping up.

-any- major tranquilizer/antipsychotic can cause TD, even clozapine. the assumption was that the 'atypicals' would be far safer than the old drugs. it now seems...

it really depends. low to moderate doses of thorazine, perphenazine, etc. actually compare fairly well to standard doses of the 'atypicals,' at least in terms of tolerability and TD. -some- of the 'atypicals' do seem to do better in managing depression than the older drugs, and they don't seem to cause low mood (dysphoria) as often.

so...its really a question of personal susceptibility, what's being treated, the other drugs on board, and the individual tranquilizer in question. abilify -can- (and does) cause TD, but the risk may be lower than risperidone. my former shrink claimed that abilify is safer in all respects (including TD) than seroquel or zyprexa, but...a) shrinks lie b) surprisingly, a lot of doctors (especially shrinks) do -not- read the literature once they're in practice, so its also limited to what they see and the conclusions they come to, as individuals.

personally, i take high dose antioxidants and b-vitamins (Orthomolecular) to help w/ overall health and also reduce the risks from psych treatment. TD, in particular, may happen in part because of free radicals/oxidative stress, caused by the tranquilizers. high dose antioxidants help neutralize the oxidative stress, improving tolerability and reducing the risk of TD (hopefully...fingers crossed on this one).

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Old 04-20-2018, 09:25 AM   #12
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the "atypicals" are big business. shrinks, for their part, like to act as if they've got safe, effective, modern treatments. those factors combined = the 'atypicals' are being sprayed on people like crazy, and long term problems have popped up and are popping up.

-any- major tranquilizer/antipsychotic can cause TD, even clozapine. the assumption was that the 'atypicals' would be far safer than the old drugs. it now seems...

it really depends. low to moderate doses of thorazine, perphenazine, etc. actually compare fairly well to standard doses of the 'atypicals,' at least in terms of tolerability and TD. -some- of the 'atypicals' do seem to do better in managing depression than the older drugs, and they don't seem to cause low mood (dysphoria) as often.

so...its really a question of personal susceptibility, what's being treated, the other drugs on board, and the individual tranquilizer in question. abilify -can- (and does) cause TD, but the risk may be lower than risperidone. my former shrink claimed that abilify is safer in all respects (including TD) than seroquel or zyprexa, but...a) shrinks lie b) surprisingly, a lot of doctors (especially shrinks) do -not- read the literature once they're in practice, so its also limited to what they see and the conclusions they come to, as individuals.

personally, i take high dose antioxidants and b-vitamins (Orthomolecular) to help w/ overall health and also reduce the risks from psych treatment. TD, in particular, may happen in part because of free radicals/oxidative stress, caused by the tranquilizers. high dose antioxidants help neutralize the oxidative stress, improving tolerability and reducing the risk of TD (hopefully...fingers crossed on this one).

hope this helps. :-)
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Old 11-25-2018, 04:27 AM   #13
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I wanted to bump this thread..
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Old 11-25-2018, 11:21 PM   #14
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hi. i take abilify, full dose, and lamictal.
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Old 11-26-2018, 02:18 PM   #15
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I don't believe Abilify has been around long enough to have long term studies done. I could be wrong though FWIW.
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I've been on it for a few years now and nothing has happened to me, but I'm definitely worried. I don't think this med has done anything for me so I don't really see the point of taking it still. I will talk to my psychiatrist about this (I'm seeing him in less than ten days)
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I've been on it for a few years now and nothing has happened to me, but I'm definitely worried. I don't think this med has done anything for me so I don't really see the point of taking it still. I will talk to my psychiatrist about this (I'm seeing him in less than ten days)
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I noticed increased appetite being on it... NOT SURE WHY?
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None of this stuff is "safe long term". None of it. Table salt isn't safe long term.

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because i take abilify, ive actually done some Google-ing, and...

blah. at a certain level, its just a neuroleptic that happens to be somewhat more tolerable in many respects...for a subset of people/"patients." Brain imaging and such has been mixed...see, over time, antipsychotics tend to cause the brain to become more sensitive to dopamine...so, long term, you see people needing higher doses of tranquilizers, additional drugs, psychotic symptoms get worse or pop up for the 1st time, etc.

Abilify -might- be somewhat better, over the long haul about that...but, then again, the tendency is for people to be on multiple psych drugs at the same time. 10mgs/Abilify long term might be safer than, say, Zyprexa...but what if there's an antidepressant and anti-seizure drugs in the mix, too? stimulants?

akathisia seems common with abilify, which is worrisome for me. i dont have it now, but some people report tardive akathisia, even without tardive dyskinesia or other obvious movement disorders. I think part of the problem is that many shrinks jump to suppress akathisia, with propranolol or benzodiazepines, and keep the offending tranquilizer in place. OK short term, can be disastrous long term.

so there you go. oh, and Abilify is actually very potent, so the 20 and 30mgs doses are often over kill, when one sees the brain imaging studies. and yet...20 and 30mgs doses are quite common, especially in Bipolar I and Schizoaffective labelled-people. For whatever reason, once the problems are bad enough to be labeled "Schizophrenia," the psych people go for seroquel, risperidone, etc. I don't get it.

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