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Unread 06-17-2017, 03:02 PM   #1
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Hi, haven't posted in here in a while. I want to tell my story about acupuncture and how it is helping my depression but I don't want to give anyone false hope. Everyone is different.

Just some background: I was quite ill in March and April during a [supervised] withdrawal from EMSAM. My new pdoc then tried two different medications (Lamictal and Cymbalta) and both had to be stopped. I had to stop the Lamictal because it was interacting too much with the 2mg Xanax XR I had been taking at night - the drowsiness was so bad I couldn't drive. I was stuck on the Xanax because that was given to me by my old pdoc to counteract the insomnia caused by the EMSAM. Cymbalta was the next try, and that had to be tossed out the window as well because it caused bizarre muscle and joint stiffness which exacerbated the stuff I am going to mention in my next paragraph.

In the midst of all of this, I've also had to deal with chronic pain since October in my neck and back + various mobility/weakness issues in my right foot and hand. I have been doing PT since January but because of my lousy defensive mood I have fired two orthopedics/pain management practitioners for too many reasons to go into. Those specialists weren't entirely blameless, though. I then went the neurology route and after a battery of testing the only concrete problems they could find were a muscle spasm in my neck and a non-obstructing disc bulge between L4 and L5 (the end of my lumbar region). No nerve damage, no neuropathy, no pinched nerves, etc.

At this point, PT is keeping me stabilized and nothing more. It is not really reducing any physical pain. Out of desperation from this chronic pain, I decided to try acupuncture. I discovered that my insurance covered it. I was not even thinking about my mental illness when I made the appointment. Just my back problems.

After my 1st or 2nd visit (today was my 5th treatment) I began to notice a lift in my overall mood around the day after the treatment and it lasts around 2 days. I still tank but I wasn't expecting miracles. It's not doing a lot for my physical pain though.

By the way, it is summer where I live but I am not counting the better weather as a reason here because I actually don't like summer and I don't have seasonal affective disorder.

Please believe me when I say this, guys - I've been really in the gutter for the last 18 months since the EMSAM stopped working. That blast of norepinephrine from the MAOI really changed my personality and made me angry at everyone. It's been a really bad few years. Whatever this acupuncture is doing, it's at least making me feel up to doing errands and cleaning up my house a little bit, so I'll take it. I don't believe I've had a panic attack in almost a month either.

As for my medication situation, my pdoc switched me over to Valium from Xanax XR and I am doing a very careful taper from that. We will see where I go from here when I see him again on July 7. He told me recently that he is a strong proponent of acupuncture but I investigated it all on my own, he didn't suggest it. Other than the Valium, I am on no other medication right now except for supplements.

Anyway, that's my story. I don't know if these psychological benefits will last. I had only sought Western medicine until now, by the way.
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i had excellent results with acupuncture - for back pain many years ago, and for brain chemistry disorders about 13 yrs ago. i went for the 'stop smoking' treatment, and was amazed at the speed and effectiveness of the results. i was also relieved of other OCDs and phobias, experiencing an over-all improvement in many areas of my life. i was fortunate to meet up with a very qualified Acu DOC, not Master or Practitioner. i bargained for additional treatments, about 26 altogether, i think, until the Doc left the area.

the Master of Acupuncture that i saw after that specialized in 'sports medicine', and did nothing for my needs. so, i am sure that tho the ancient practice of Acupuncture is valid and effective, as with so many other 'treatments, results can depend on the provider and the recipient.

i'm very happy to hear you are having good results,, and hope you will continue to build on those to strengthen your recovery, as time goes by~
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i had excellent results with acupuncture - for back pain many years ago, and for brain chemistry disorders about 13 yrs ago. i went for the 'stop smoking' treatment, and was amazed at the speed and effectiveness of the results. i was also relieved of other OCDs and phobias, experiencing an over-all improvement in many areas of my life. i was fortunate to meet up with a very qualified Acu DOC, not Master or Practitioner. i bargained for additional treatments, about 26 altogether, i think, until the Doc left the area.

the Master of Acupuncture that i saw after that specialized in 'sports medicine', and did nothing for my needs. so, i am sure that tho the ancient practice of Acupuncture is valid and effective, as with so many other 'treatments, results can depend on the provider and the recipient.

i'm very happy to hear you are having good results,, and hope you will continue to build on those to strengthen your recovery, as time goes by~
Thanks for your insight. My practitioner is not a Doctor of Acupuncture, she has a Master's Degree and is licensed in my state. She happened to tell me that she sees a lot of patients are withdrawing from psych medications or transitioning to medications. She is also not against psychiatry at all and she feels acupuncture is something that can play a very big role in the whole picture.

I don't have to pay anything for it for the rest of this calendar year because I've seen so many frigging doctors/PT and fulfilled my out-of-pocket limit, so if I have a place to go and chill out for 45 minutes every week, so be it.

I have a co-worker who successfully quit smoking after probably 40+ years with hypnosis and acupuncture. She said she hasn't had a cigarette in 5 months and does not get cravings.
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i had excellent results with acupuncture - for back pain many years ago, and for brain chemistry disorders about 13 yrs ago. i went for the 'stop smoking' treatment, and was amazed at the speed and effectiveness of the results. i was also relieved of other OCDs and phobias, experiencing an over-all improvement in many areas of my life. i was fortunate to meet up with a very qualified Acu DOC, not Master or Practitioner. i bargained for additional treatments, about 26 altogether, i think, until the Doc left the area.

the Master of Acupuncture that i saw after that specialized in 'sports medicine', and did nothing for my needs. so, i am sure that tho the ancient practice of Acupuncture is valid and effective, as with so many other 'treatments, results can depend on the provider and the recipient.

i'm very happy to hear you are having good results,, and hope you will continue to build on those to strengthen your recovery, as time goes by~
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I've had good results with acupuncture. It lifts my mood for several days and gives me so much energy. I can't do it as often as I'd like because my insurance doesn't pay for it but I do have it done once a month. Best wishes.
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I've had good results with acupuncture. It lifts my mood for several days and gives me so much energy. I can't do it as often as I'd like because my insurance doesn't pay for it but I do have it done once a month. Best wishes.
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I wish I could do something like this. Unfortunately, since I am a regular plasma donor and I am heavily reliant on the money I make to pay for most of my living expenses, I would have to stop donating plasma for a year if I were to get an acupuncture.

Their rules are stupid but I don't have any other way to eat yet.

Maybe one day I will have the money to invest into my healing. Until then, I need to fight for my survival.
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