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Default Trying to figure out how to eat

So, literally since the time I was 13 I have been dieting. Of course, when I started I was already thin. Dieting has only made me gain weight.

I have come to conclude that dieting (or specifically the way we diet) is the reason people are getting fat. Recently I have discovered that studies have shown that your body adjusts your metabolism down in as little as 4 weeks. By the time you have been on a diet for 13 or so weeks, your metabolism has dropped substantially and your weight loss slows. If at this point you eat what you did before, maintenance calories, you gain weight fast.

This constant pattern allows your body to become super efficient at reducing your calories when you start dieting. So the ONE thing I cannot do going forward is diet for a long period of time.

I have been eating normal for about a year now I have noticed a few things. I get much better sleep. I am much warmer at all times. I feel like my body is more healthy... better hair and nails... I am pretty sure my metabolism is raring at its highest point. I can eat about 2000 cals and I am slower at gaining. Though I am gaining. But it is like 1 lbs per month. I suspect that when I do exercise I burn more because my metabolism is at a high point. I also don't want food in the same way as I want it when I am dieting. I don't obsess. Sometimes i even skip meals because I am not hungry.

But I recognize that I must lose weight. Being overweight puts you at risk for all kinds of problems. Such as cancer.

So how do I lose weight... but NOT eat less. I am struggling with this... I suppose I could exercise but I simply don't have the ability to exercise for this long.

Meanwhile I keep gaining weight. Not sure what to do.
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You pretty much have to eat less in order to lose weight. Or workout. there are some weight loss shakes like Pure Protein, Slim Fast, and Muscle Milk. I find Muscle Milk blueberry Greek yogurt smoothies to be pretty filling. Also you can just eat what you usually eat but less of it. I eat a lot of fast food and other stuff like that but just not a ton of it.
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I donít believe a lot of the stuff I read online about weight. I go on this page on a site called Reddit and they debunk a lot of the stuff people believe like set points, genetics, thyroid issues, and other weight related myths like that.
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Default Re: Trying to figure out how to eat

Being on a ď dietĒ is the fastest way to gain weight.

Everything in moderation, smaller portions. Lifestyle changes in what we normally eat , just more fruit and veggies , unprocessed foods are best.

Then there is the need for exercise , even a brisk walk will help burn calories.
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Default Re: Trying to figure out how to eat

I appreciate the help guys but seriously I am an advanced dieter and am so lost because I feel like the general advice doesn't work for me any longer.

I did a liquid diet and they had all these studies off pub med that showed that if you did a liquid diet and went back to eating normal, your metabolism would recover. And it was on that basis that I did it. But now I realize the conceit that I didn't think of...

If you have been reducing your calories since you were 13 -- once or twice per year - and you are now 50; what does that do to your bodies ability to recover its metabolism? I suspect the answer is that like anything your body just gets better at it if you do it all the time. Every time I go on a diet now my body more quickly adjusts all its processes to reduce the amount of calories burned.

I am on a weight loss site with a diet drug and so many people point out they aren't losing, even on the diet drug. So they aren't hungry, aren't eating, and aren't losing. I believe them all. I have seen it so many times. They only way this could be is if your metabolism has reduced.

My whole life I have primarily focused on the eating side of the equation, to be sure, I have exercised but it always seemed like I needed a lot of exercise. It is tremendously difficult for me to exercise because of my job, there just isn't time or energy. But I know the single greatest mistake I can make right now is to eat substantially less. That side of the equation cannot change substantially.

So this is my plan for the moment

1. I don't know that I have a ton of muscle. But recently (not sure if they were around before ) I found that BMR calculators have a new feature where it can calculate more accurately if you put in your body fat percentage (it calculates your muscle from that). Well turns out if I just drop my body fat percentage and increase my muscle by a little bit, my BMR can increase up to 200 calories burned per day. So I am going to get a "My gym" and try to build muscle.

2. I am going to attempt to burn off about 200 more calories per day via exercise. In two ways. Working out at the gym and also NEAT... standing at my desk for longer periods.

3. I am going to drop my calories slightly. Right now I burn anyplace from 1500 to 1700 cals per day. Instead of dropping down to 1000 calories as I typically do. I will drop to 1400 to 1500 cals per day. And attempt to burn off 1900 to 2000 cals per day.

I need to focus on the increase calorie burins side of the equation. Period. It is going to be difficult but I hope to be able to do a lot of it at work.
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So, literally since the time I was 13 I have been dieting. Of course, when I started I was already thin. Dieting has only made me gain weight.

I have come to conclude that dieting (or specifically the way we diet) is the reason people are getting fat. Recently I have discovered that studies have shown that your body adjusts your metabolism down in as little as 4 weeks. By the time you have been on a diet for 13 or so weeks, your metabolism has dropped substantially and your weight loss slows. If at this point you eat what you did before, maintenance calories, you gain weight fast.

This constant pattern allows your body to become super efficient at reducing your calories when you start dieting. So the ONE thing I cannot do going forward is diet for a long period of time.

I have been eating normal for about a year now I have noticed a few things. I get much better sleep. I am much warmer at all times. I feel like my body is more healthy... better hair and nails... I am pretty sure my metabolism is raring at its highest point. I can eat about 2000 cals and I am slower at gaining. Though I am gaining. But it is like 1 lbs per month. I suspect that when I do exercise I burn more because my metabolism is at a high point. I also don't want food in the same way as I want it when I am dieting. I don't obsess. Sometimes i even skip meals because I am not hungry.

But I recognize that I must lose weight. Being overweight puts you at risk for all kinds of problems. Such as cancer.

So how do I lose weight... but NOT eat less. I am struggling with this... I suppose I could exercise but I simply don't have the ability to exercise for this long.

Meanwhile I keep gaining weight. Not sure what to do.
Eat fruits and vegetables. Lean meats. Reduce fats, sugars.
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Default Re: Trying to figure out how to eat

In general I avoid fast food and make a goal of eating pretty healthy and eat things I like. For example I like yogurt and itís fairly healthy, get higher protein Greek yogurt. Like chocolate so eat a little bit daily after lunch and dinner. My weakness is eating too many chips so have to take a handful or two and not eat straight from the bag. Love French fries, but make them in the oven so baked not fried.
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