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Unread 09-10-2017, 09:56 PM   #1
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I have a very difficult time, most of the time, in identifying my emotions. In this regard I am asking if the transient thought of " I don't feel like living anymore" or " I don't see the point of going on" is an indication that I am depressed, or seriously depressed. I do suffer from dysthymic disorder and had done so for do long that it was what I would call normal, as in this is how most people feel. It's just what is normal. I think I may be back in that state but as I said, I can go for years like this looking like, to others, there is nothing wrong. Except, you know, in the inside I'm filled with sadness, anxiety and hopelessness. So thoughts?
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Unread 09-11-2017, 02:11 AM   #2
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I don't remember the exact term. It is something like passive suicidal. But yes those are considered to be the scale of suicidal thoughts.
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I was diagnosed with dysthymia also a few years ago. So, I get that you might not know how you feel. Dysthymia, for me, was like a numbing. I didn't feel anything. I didn't really have any emotions.

So you asked how to identify your emotions. And then you gave an example of a thought. Be careful to make the distinction between a thought and an emotion. Thoughts can cause emotions, but they are not one in the same. That's important to realize.

Depression can cause a lot of dark thoughts. Thoughts aren't necessarily true. For regular people, their emotions kind of line up with their thoughts and tell them whether their thoughts are true or not. Since our emotions aren't working super well when we are dysthymic, I learned to stop automatically stop believing my thoughts and learned to question them though the process of inquiry, which is a very simple process that you can find at The Work | The Work of Byron Katie.
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You are correct in thinking that thoughts like "I just don't want to live anymore" is a symptom. Please seek help with your T or Pdoc and tell them how you feel. They won't freak they've heard it before. Get a tweak in your meds and/r address these feelings before they escalate into " don't to live and this is what I'm going to do about it."
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Yes, I agree that these are definitely symptoms. Check out a doctor..
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I was diagnosed with dysthymia also a few years ago. So, I get that you might not know how you feel. Dysthymia, for me, was like a numbing. I didn't feel anything. I didn't really have any emotions.

So you asked how to identify your emotions. And then you gave an example of a thought. Be careful to make the distinction between a thought and an emotion. Thoughts can cause emotions, but they are not one in the same. That's important to realize.

Depression can cause a lot of dark thoughts. Thoughts aren't necessarily true. For regular people, their emotions kind of line up with their thoughts and tell them whether their thoughts are true or not. Since our emotions aren't working super well when we are dysthymic, I learned to stop automatically stop believing my thoughts and learned to question them though the process of inquiry, which is a very simple process that you can find at The Work | The Work of Byron Katie.
Yes that distinction is only about 2 years old for me. Prior to that emotions were in my mind and addressed in my mind just like thoughts.... In my view at that time. My emotions have been shut down for decades and dealing with them is a weakness of mine. Thanks for the reminder.
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What you've described is suicidal ideation. Are you seeing a psychiatrist?
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I agree with all of the above. Please contact your pdoc.
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