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Old 12-09-2014, 10:19 PM   #1
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Hey guys so I haven't written in awhile but honestly its because I haven't needed to because I have been so busy enjoying life!! Last year was awful after struggling with depression and anxiety for almost a whole year I made it out on the other side! It wasn't easy and I will be the first person to tell you that but in the end it is soooo worth it! And if you read any of my old entries you'll know that I was going through a terrible terrible time. I contemplated suicide AT LEAST once a week, I suffered from panic attacks AT LEAST once a day and my overall quality of life was extremely low. Of course it didn't help that taking antidepressants and anti anxiety medicine just made me feel worse, but it was helpful to learn that I had a family history of these issues so with some of my dads personal experience I got through it. I don't know if this will help anyone but I currently take vitamins to balance out my emotions and they have helped soooo much. I take vitamin B complex everyday, 2 fish oils, and this vitamin called SAM-e that I would highly recommend, it's a naturally occurring chemical in the brain and it helps with stabilizing moods and often times people with depression lack this vitamin in the brain and they don't even know it. I like these methods because they are natural and I am much more interested in fixing problems naturally than I am chemically but thats just me so hey whatever works works! But I wanted to say that with help from family, friends, vitamins, and as much as I was resistant ~therapy~. I just wanted to say if I can do it you can too and I learned a lot of powerful methods last year like writing my feelings down in a journal and keeping a notebook of motivational quotes with me or write random ones on all my stuff and I know that doesn't help for everyone but it actually did a lot for me! If you ever need help and don't know who to talk to please do not hesitate to contact me I want to help people be where I am now and I know what you're going through so as members of the mental health community we need to lean on each other and work with each other. Well I wish you all the bed and seriously don't hesitate to contact me. ever. And as I said when I was going through my struggles and my hard journey and I can say with TRUTH now "If there's one thing I've learned about life it's this.. It. Goes. On!
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:34 PM   #2
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Thank you so much for this post! It is always such a joy to read about someone finally getting to feel good and enjoy life. It gives others something to work for. You are definitely a success story.
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Old 12-10-2014, 04:45 AM   #3
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Hi. What do you think helped you the most in getting to where you are now compared to last year? Did you have therapy, did that help? Or was it a self liberating self empowering recovery not needing medical help? I guess support from others was important. There is light at the end of the tunnel. Depression is not a fixed lifelong, reoccurent, permenant condition for everyone that can't have control over and overcome. Some people believe that depression will always be there, that its part of them, and they feel that accepting and surrendering to it is best. Depression is for me both physical and mental illness, not to do with type of the person or background, genetics. It differs a lot from person to person. I've been struggling and suffering a lot with it over the years, for good 10 years. I find it difficult to cope with things as they are in my life with illness. I haven't had good experiences of professionals and not keen on taking med or therapy -have tried to have therapy but been disappointed by different approaches/responses of therapists.
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Old 12-10-2014, 06:12 AM   #4
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That is great to hear. I am afraid I have tried all the supplements. I still take melatonin, fish oil, and vitamin D.

You might be interested in this article. It talks about Folate, folic acid, L Methylfolate, and SamE. There are genetic defects that cause problems in synthesis of chemicals that can cause depression. From what you said and what supplements work it sounds like you.

CNS Spectrums: Novel Therapeutics for Depression: L-methylfolate as a Trimonoamine Modulator and Antidepressant-Augmenting Agent

http://www.cnsspectrums.com/aspx/art...articleid=1969

Deplin Deplin = L Methylfolate Prescription only for some reason, (I dunno why, its a medical food) This is a thread on this forum where we discussed it.

http://www.psychcongress.com/article...pression-11329

http://www.psychcongress.com/blogs/c...ists-need-know

http://www.cnsspectrums.com/aspx/art...articleid=1267

http://www.healio.com/psychiatry/jou...-a-case-report

http://www.seekinghealth.com/mthfr-test.html

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WOW. Congratulations and what a great story!

There is an interesting wikipedia page on SAM-e, the SAM cycle, why you take it with B vitamins, methylation (presumably this is DNA methylation which is how genes are turned on and off).

Wiki points out that what you are doing has been shown to be a safe and effective treatment for depression in double blind clinical studies

Oral S-adenosylmethionine in depression: a randomized, double-blind... - PubMed - NCBI

There's a little warning at the end with a list of drugs that should not be taken with SAM-e + B vitamins and there is a caution about taking SAM-e with antidepressant meds.

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Hi. What do you think helped you the most in getting to where you are now compared to last year? Did you have therapy, did that help? Or was it a self liberating self empowering recovery not needing medical help? I guess support from others was important. There is light at the end of the tunnel. Depression is not a fixed lifelong, reoccurent, permenant condition for everyone that can't have control over and overcome. Some people believe that depression will always be there, that its part of them, and they feel that accepting and surrendering to it is best. Depression is for me both physical and mental illness, not to do with type of the person or background, genetics. It differs a lot from person to person. I've been struggling and suffering a lot with it over the years, for good 10 years. I find it difficult to cope with things as they are in my life with illness. I haven't had good experiences of professionals and not keen on taking med or therapy -have tried to have therapy but been disappointed by different approaches/responses of therapists.
I think what helped me the most was a combination of things. I'm not sure if the supplements actually helped or not but antidepressants sure didn't so if anything it could have been a placebo affect. For me it was really admitting I had a problem I saw a therapist and told her about how worthless I felt, about my anxieties, and about the hopelessness that comes with depression. This helped me because I tend to bottle up my emotions which truly does make things worse. The big thing was realizing what my problems were and how to face them head on. It was about believing in myself finding my own self worth and knowing everyday no matter the situation what I did and did not deserve and always reminding myself of the positive. One thing I did was make a list of things I'm thankful for on a good day and why I am thankful for those things and then when I was having a rough time I could read them and remember some of the things that made life worthwhile for me and I would really suggest this one! If you do not try anything else I suggest I would defiantly do this one! I also had a strong support system. When I came home from college in the summer I had my best friend and dad who both had suffered through similar circumstances which was a really nice reminder of not being alone, my family, my friends. They're job wasn't just to cheer me up when I was down though it was also to remind me on some bad days to suck it up and move on and to quit sitting and wallowing in my pain because that is NOT living. I really needed this sometimes and it was a great help to me to have people who cared enough to tell me the truth. I hope this helped please feel free to private message me if you ever need anything I would love to spread some of my ideas that have helped me on to others who are suffering! God Bless you and don't forget that!!!
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Congratulations and never give up in your life.
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It's been a while since I used this site. I have become more interested in the arts, I love to sing and am currently working on a play related to identity, self-image. I organised a small arts mental health event in the spring which was an achievement. I want to do more combining arts and mental health. Singing is a big passion too and also starting own vocal group.
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I think what helped me the most was a combination of things. I'm not sure if the supplements actually helped or not but antidepressants sure didn't so if anything it could have been a placebo affect. For me it was really admitting I had a problem I saw a therapist and told her about how worthless I felt, about my anxieties, and about the hopelessness that comes with depression. This helped me because I tend to bottle up my emotions which truly does make things worse. The big thing was realizing what my problems were and how to face them head on. It was about believing in myself finding my own self worth and knowing everyday no matter the situation what I did and did not deserve and always reminding myself of the positive. One thing I did was make a list of things I'm thankful for on a good day and why I am thankful for those things and then when I was having a rough time I could read them and remember some of the things that made life worthwhile for me and I would really suggest this one! If you do not try anything else I suggest I would defiantly do this one! I also had a strong support system. When I came home from college in the summer I had my best friend and dad who both had suffered through similar circumstances which was a really nice reminder of not being alone, my family, my friends. They're job wasn't just to cheer me up when I was down though it was also to remind me on some bad days to suck it up and move on and to quit sitting and wallowing in my pain because that is NOT living. I really needed this sometimes and it was a great help to me to have people who cared enough to tell me the truth. I hope this helped please feel free to private message me if you ever need anything I would love to spread some of my ideas that have helped me on to others who are suffering! God Bless you and don't forget that!!!
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Hi. What do you think helped you the most in getting to where you are now compared to last year? Did you have therapy, did that help? Or was it a self liberating self empowering recovery not needing medical help? I guess support from others was important. There is light at the end of the tunnel. Depression is not a fixed lifelong, reoccurent, permenant condition for everyone that can't have control over and overcome. Some people believe that depression will always be there, that its part of them, and they feel that accepting and surrendering to it is best. Depression is for me both physical and mental illness, not to do with type of the person or background, genetics. It differs a lot from person to person. I've been struggling and suffering a lot with it over the years, for good 10 years. I find it difficult to cope with things as they are in my life with illness. I haven't had good experiences of professionals and not keen on taking med or therapy -have tried to have therapy but been disappointed by different approaches/responses of therapists.
YES, certain types of clinical depression need anti depressant meds all the lifetime of the person--i have that.I found out,trauma damaGED my BRAIN. ITS PHYSIOLOGICAL.

--I get doing better?--wham, my brain does an over whelming mood swing!even if i am doing better, the brain does not like ANYTHING.--its forever.My doc has to add or change a med.

I am 71,and most of my friends are dead.Mental health problems kill a lot of people,more than obvious suicide.My ex got a drug dealer to shoot him.--people get homeless whom i knew--or illegal drugs,alcohol,smoking, aggravated diabetes, cancer you name it.My friend in Michigan is dying from "Cushings' Desease"her abusive parents may have caused.--I'm sorry,i won't go on.

You can be a survivor,but the catch is, It can be LONELY being the only survivor.--so prepare.If you are happy,great;I am very tired,worn out by the struggle,I gained a lotta weight,my back is bad,my FEET WENT OUT.--I have to use a power chair for long distances,or when the feet got too bad.

WATCH OUT,some mental illness can get you physically disabled.--cause of the stress,your body freaks out.(yes,VitAMIN B HELPS STRESS.Try foods that have it too.)"Brewers yeast" has good vitamin Bs.--health food stores.

But please don't give up because the Universe is too amazing to quit.our real home is else-where-and we return there after Death.Yes,this is not"forever".

-Even the galaxy and stars eventually change.--So don't give up too soon(I did a whole paper on suicide long ago.)--Give this world a good shot--its worth it.-You will be surprised by people,animals,flora and fauna, temporary, but beautiful.-And people do help each other.--they are truly worth the fight.---I guess I got be to be an expert on"whether or not to stay alive."-

-so I say,"CHOOSE LIFE." Its not perfect,but it can be amazing.You'll be glad you chose it..--you can always "leave the party" much later,if you want.But right now,choose to be here.
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