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Old 10-07-2014, 09:24 AM   #1
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I saw the therapist today. He has done the four sessions of information gathering which were to start the interpersonal therapy I was down to have (though there was also some question at the beginning as to whether it should be this or more personalised CBT).

So, now that he has all the information (or at least as much as I could cope with saying so far) he has said he thinks I'd be better off having EMDR at the moment and is referring me for this. I can go back later and have IPT if I feel the need.

This all fits in with my own thinking - before I saw him I had a working theory that I had something akin to PTSD, or more likely complex PTSD, as the trauma stuff is all from long ago, just triggered recently. Now the therapist referred to treatment for trauma but didn't use the term PTSD, which has confused me a bit. I think I'll have a while to wait before I see the new therapist so I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on whether this means PTSD/CPTSD or not?

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Old 10-07-2014, 09:32 AM   #2
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I saw the therapist today. He has done the four sessions of information gathering which were to start the interpersonal therapy I was down to have (though there was also some question at the beginning as to whether it should be this or more personalised CBT).

So, now that he has all the information (or at least as much as I could cope with saying so far) he has said he thinks I'd be better off having EMDR at the moment and is referring me for this. I can go back later and have IPT if I feel the need.

This all fits in with my own thinking - before I saw him I had a working theory that I had something akin to PTSD, or more likely complex PTSD, as the trauma stuff is all from long ago, just triggered recently. Now the therapist referred to treatment for trauma but didn't use the term PTSD, which has confused me a bit. I think I'll have a while to wait before I see the new therapist so I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on whether this means PTSD/CPTSD or not?

Thanks for any help.

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I dont know about in the UK (what you have marked for your location) but here in the USA sometimes it does mean that other times it doesnt. only your treatment providers can say what they mean /what your diagnosis really is and what it means, why they are referring you and other therapy based questions relating to you.
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Well, you shouldn't have to wonder. Just ask point blank what the diagnosis is.
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I know I should have asked - but it took me by surprise a bit, so I didn't really think at the time. When I see the next person, I suppose...

Thanks for posting so quickly.
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Bluegray, what about emailing your therapist that is referring you and ask if he has a diagnosis, you could even tell him you want to do some research in preparation?

It's horrible to wait around, or hate it anyway.....

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I think trauma is a word related to PTSD because trauma is one element of the diagnosis. PTSD is the official diagnosis for medical billing purposes. So really, they are sort of one and the same. The DSM-V does not recognize Complex PTSD though it is real-- it is what I have from long term childhood trauma. Maybe the next revision will.
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Thanks, everyone.

Jane, I can't email the therapist, we don't have a system that would make this feasible. The NHS is very good in many ways but there is no contact outside the specific sessions.

I've been sent a leaflet about EMDR, which refers to PTSD quite specifically. And the therapist did say trauma and the events were definitely long ago. So I suppose it doesn't really matter what it's called anyway - what really matters is whether I can get to a state where I am coping again.

It's all so strange. And perhaps one of the hardest things - which was a trigger as well - is that several people I trusted and counted as friends have turned away from me, so I don't have the support I crave. Or acceptance. I know that there are people who do care about me, but most of them are at a distance. Does it sound stupid to say I just need people to be kind to me? I feel so idiotic...
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(((Bluegrey)))

It is not stupid at all to want people to be kind to you. It is part of what we need to heal, I think, and something that I have struggled to find. My therapist is very kind, and that has helped a lot.

It is incredibly painful when those that we hoped would be able to be there for us, those close to us, abandon us in our time of greatest need. I have had that with friends and family and so I can relate to how hard it is for you. I am sorry that you also have to experience it.

I have lived in the UK for 10 years, my son was born there! The NHS surely has it's ups and downs right? It seems so strange that you don't have an email contact for the therapist though, and such a pity. Could you possibly call and request a letter outlining your diagnosis? That is if it is still important for you to know?

You sound like such a lovely person through your posts, I hope that you can find some space to be a little kind to yourself in the absence of others being there to be kind to you.

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The only thing worse than suffering trauma as a child that results in PTSD is to have people tell you it didn't happen because they were "there". The next worse thing is to have people think you are crazy, lying, trying to get attention, mean-spirited for calling out your abuser, or possibly the worst, that you should just "get over it".

EMDR has worked wonders for me. I hope it does for you as well.

I think that there are some people who experience trauma and do not develop PTSD, but anyone who has PTSD has definitely experienced trama. Does that make sense?

Good luck and let us know how you are doing.

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I think trauma is a word related to PTSD because trauma is one element of the diagnosis. PTSD is the official diagnosis for medical billing purposes. So really, they are sort of one and the same. The DSM-V does not recognize Complex PTSD though it is real-- it is what I have from long term childhood trauma. Maybe the next revision will.
it is recognized in the DSM 5 just differently...the diagnostics for PTSD has been expanded on to include most of the diagnostics for complex PTSD. those complex PTSD past diagnostics that were not fitting into this expanded upon PTSD diagnostics (ie having hallucinations/delusions/psychosis due to long term trauma ) now fall under the diagnosis of Other Specified Trauma and stressor related disorders and unspecified trauma and stressor related disorders....

in other words complex PTSD is still in the DSM 5 just new diagnostic labling like many other mental disorders have gone through new diagnostics and labling
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