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Old 01-07-2019, 10:54 AM   #11
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You are not a bad lazy piece of ****.







Having no energy or motivation can be symptoms of depression.



I agree that agoraphobia is a separate diagnosis.



The other symptoms strike me as consistent with borderline pd.



Were you diagnosed bipolar or borderline?



I was diagnosed with borderline plus depression and agaraphobia .
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I was told i had bpd but sometimes im not sure if its the right diagnosis or maybe it is but i might have additional mental health problems which haven't been diagnosed yet .
Comorbidity is pretty frequent from what I heard from experts. For example, PTST is quite often found together with bpd.
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What is schema ? Sounds good but i don't think i can afford it sadly .
Its a type of therapy that blends different methods, CBT and bit of psychoanalysis theories (but very lightly) and Gestalt amongst others. In a nut shell, all people learn to experience life through some sort of blueprint or recipe called Schema. These models or Schemas become automatic and get triggered all the time. Some have healthy schemas and they get triggered positively and some learn maladaptive schemeas and get triggered negatively.

Those with maladaptive Schemas are almost boxed in and sadly end up perceiving life through a specific lens, or different lenses simultaneously such as: operating from a defectiveness state of mind or dependent state of mind or a sense of fear of being abandoned or ummm mistrust of others intentions etc. There are 18 Schemas and often people have several maladaptive schemas functioning at once. There are other layers to it as well and it has been developed further, i could keep writing much more but i feel like i will end up writing a college essay haha!

Do look up the link i've sent you in a previous post it is somewhat digested.

This is the introductory book by the psychologist who created this therapy model. It is the older version though without the newer models and layers introduced to it.

https://www.amazon.com/Reinventing-Y.../dp/0452272041

This is the updated model. Schema Therapy : Jeffrey Young : 9780415462990

It's all so fascinating.

You could look up some therapists online that would charge less and possibly be affordable for you?

Do let me know if you want some help looking.

You did say that you are starting therapy though right? What type is it? and Is it your first round at therapy? or have you done it before?

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Its a type of therapy that blends different methods, CBT and bit of psychoanalysis theories (but very lightly) and Gestalt amongst others. In a nut shell, all people learn to experience life through some sort of blueprint or recipe called Schema. These models or Schemas become automatic and get triggered all the time. Some have healthy schemas and they get triggered positively and some learn maladaptive schemeas and get triggered negatively.



Those with maladaptive Schemas are almost boxed in and sadly end up perceiving life through a specific lens, or different lenses simultaneously such as: operating from a defectiveness state of mind or dependent state of mind or a sense of fear of being abandoned or ummm mistrust of others intentions etc. There are 18 Schemas and often people have several maladaptive schemas functioning at once. There are other layers to it as well and it has been developed further, i could keep writing much more but i feel like i will end up writing a college essay haha!



Do look up the link i've sent you in a previous post it is somewhat digested.



This is the introductory book by the psychologist who created this therapy model. It is the older version though without the newer models and layers introduced to it.



https://www.amazon.com/Reinventing-Y.../dp/0452272041



This is the updated model. Schema Therapy : Jeffrey Young : 9780415462990



It's all so fascinating.



You could look up some therapists online that would charge less and possibly be affordable for you?



Do let me know if you want some help looking.



You did say that you are starting therapy though right? What type is it? and Is it your first round at therapy? or have you done it before?



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Thank you for explaining and for the link .
I haven't properly had therapy before because of my agaraphobia .
The therapy they want me to go to is group dbt but I'm not even on the waiting list yet . i will try to look up online therapy today but don't think i can afford it though . thank you for the help and support
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Thank you. This is interesting.

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Its a type of therapy that blends different methods, CBT and bit of psychoanalysis theories (but very lightly) and Gestalt amongst others. In a nut shell, all people learn to experience life through some sort of blueprint or recipe called Schema. These models or Schemas become automatic and get triggered all the time. Some have healthy schemas and they get triggered positively and some learn maladaptive schemeas and get triggered negatively.

Those with maladaptive Schemas are almost boxed in and sadly end up perceiving life through a specific lens, or different lenses simultaneously such as: operating from a defectiveness state of mind or dependent state of mind or a sense of fear of being abandoned or ummm mistrust of others intentions etc. There are 18 Schemas and often people have several maladaptive schemas functioning at once. There are other layers to it as well and it has been developed further, i could keep writing much more but i feel like i will end up writing a college essay haha!

Do look up the link i've sent you in a previous post it is somewhat digested.

This is the introductory book by the psychologist who created this therapy model. It is the older version though without the newer models and layers introduced to it.

https://www.amazon.com/Reinventing-Y.../dp/0452272041

This is the updated model. Schema Therapy : Jeffrey Young : 9780415462990

It's all so fascinating.

You could look up some therapists online that would charge less and possibly be affordable for you?

Do let me know if you want some help looking.

You did say that you are starting therapy though right? What type is it? and Is it your first round at therapy? or have you done it before?

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Thank you for explaining and for the link .
I haven't properly had therapy before because of my agaraphobia .
The therapy they want me to go to is group dbt but I'm not even on the waiting list yet . i will try to look up online therapy today but don't think i can afford it though . thank you for the help and support
So sorry to hear that. Agoraphobia is tough. Do try as best as you can to go to the dbt group therapy session once you get called in.

Are there any other programs or assistance service that you can part be a part of? Is the dbt group service thing through public health care?
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So sorry to hear that. Agoraphobia is tough. Do try as best as you can to go to the dbt group therapy session once you get called in.



Are there any other programs or assistance service that you can part be a part of? Is the dbt group service thing through public health care?
I don't know if there is any other services for me . I'm under a mental health team . i have a care coordinator but she hardly ever visits or calls me . its her who is arranging the dbt and the government pays for it . personally i think i need a private therapist and i would also like hypnotherapy as i tried that once years ago and it helped . ubfortunately money is an issue
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Its a type of therapy that blends different methods, CBT and bit of psychoanalysis theories (but very lightly) and Gestalt amongst others. In a nut shell, all people learn to experience life through some sort of blueprint or recipe called Schema. These models or Schemas become automatic and get triggered all the time. Some have healthy schemas and they get triggered positively and some learn maladaptive schemeas and get triggered negatively.

Those with maladaptive Schemas are almost boxed in and sadly end up perceiving life through a specific lens, or different lenses simultaneously such as: operating from a defectiveness state of mind or dependent state of mind or a sense of fear of being abandoned or ummm mistrust of others intentions etc. There are 18 Schemas and often people have several maladaptive schemas functioning at once. There are other layers to it as well and it has been developed further, i could keep writing much more but i feel like i will end up writing a college essay haha!

Do look up the link i've sent you in a previous post it is somewhat digested.

This is the introductory book by the psychologist who created this therapy model. It is the older version though without the newer models and layers introduced to it.

https://www.amazon.com/Reinventing-Y.../dp/0452272041

This is the updated model. Schema Therapy : Jeffrey Young : 9780415462990

It's all so fascinating.

You could look up some therapists online that would charge less and possibly be affordable for you?

Do let me know if you want some help looking.

You did say that you are starting therapy though right? What type is it? and Is it your first round at therapy? or have you done it before?

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I don't know if there is any other services for me . I'm under a mental health team . i have a care coordinator but she hardly ever visits or calls me . its her who is arranging the dbt and the government pays for it . personally i think i need a private therapist and i would also like hypnotherapy as i tried that once years ago and it helped . ubfortunately money is an issue
I'd love to try hypnotherapy too just to test it out.

Could you try and calling care coordinator and having a chat with her? You could ask her if there is something else that you could participate in for the time being? I understand that it feels crappy if she's not calling or contacting but you could try and reach out instead and ask her about some temporary options or something that she can maybe suggest?
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I'd love to try hypnotherapy too just to test it out.



Could you try and calling care coordinator and having a chat with her? You could ask her if there is something else that you could participate in for the time being? I understand that it feels crappy if she's not calling or contacting but you could try and reach out instead and ask her about some temporary options or something that she can maybe suggest?
That's a good idea , i will contact her tomorrow .
Thank you for being so supportive !!
As for the hypnotherapy it was amazing in my experience . it was a long time ago before i was diagnosed . i kept going to the doctors telling them i was depressed and they said i was wasting their time .
I didnt know what else to do . i dont know where i got the idea to try hypnotherapy but im glad i did . i told the man about my low self asteem and feeling depressed and that i got bullied at work but i wasn't quite sure why . the hypnotherapy worked amazingly on me . i think i went very deep into it ( not sure if its the same with everyone or would have the same affect . ) i felt so calm afterwards , a constant calm , it was a feeling i hadn't experienced before or remembered feeling because i was constantly on edge . this calmness stayed with me for about a year and that was after having only one session . i was given a tape of the session and told to listen to it every night but i lost it . it probably would have been more affective if i listened to the tape or if i went again a few more times .
So I'm very interested in it. he was amazing though , i don't know if they are all as good him though . im going to try it again , hopefully find someone who is willing to come to my house . if they are not as good as him and its not successful i will be dissaopointed but at least i would have tried .
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