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Old 04-15-2018, 07:17 PM   #1
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Man. I was looking through my DBT binder and decided to look at old diary cards. Man was I unstable then. I was back and forth so much! And had signs of psychosis that no one seemed to acknowledge.
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My experience with DBT is that they choose not to acknowledge psychosis and prefer to believe everything can be solved by changing your thinking. I think DBT definitely has a place in bipolar treatment but itís not the end all and be all that advocates say it is. I harmed myself severely while in a dbt program and they dismissed me for attention seeking. I was hospitalized with mixed episode psychosis a couple of weeks later. I could have avoided the psychosis part if they had taken me seriously.

I wonít return to that program. And I refuse to be placed in any solely dbt based program. I just wonít go.
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It mostly helped me. Especially distress tolerance skills.

But I was seeing shadows and hearing someone say my name and no one seemed to care. Then I had my first psychosis and they didn't help me cope much.
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Not to mention they took me back to time ems cans cops came to my house and stuff. Wow. A lot has happened.
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My experience with DBT is that they choose not to acknowledge psychosis and prefer to believe everything can be solved by changing your thinking. I think DBT definitely has a place in bipolar treatment but itís not the end all and be all that advocates say it is. I harmed myself severely while in a dbt program and they dismissed me for attention seeking. I was hospitalized with mixed episode psychosis a couple of weeks later. I could have avoided the psychosis part if they had taken me seriously.

I wonít return to that program. And I refuse to be placed in any solely dbt based program. I just wonít go.
I must agree with the above in many ways. Though I do see value in some DBT skills, for anyone, sometimes it's not the right place for manic or mixed manic people. Even with depression, it had only limited value for me.

My area has a co-ed IOP and a women's DBT program. I believe that any manic or mixed manic woman ended up sent to the DBT women's program after hospitalizations. The co-ed therapists didn't seem to want bipolar women. They took bipolar men, though. So, bipolar women have "emotional dysregulation" while bipolar men don't? Kind of a sexist assumption, no? Anyway, I got NOTHING out of DBT when I was manic. It was a waste! But now that I'm stable, I see some value in DBT, but as I wrote, no more than just about any person on the street might.

I, too, refuse to ever return to a DBT program. My psychiatrist knows that. Besides, after four stints in one, I think I'm more than qualified to teach the skills.If I had to sit through a fifth time and fill out another one of those sheets I'd puke on it. Or if manic, even worse. In two cases, I even felt I was being punished for being manic. One ended up scared by my rebellion and quit me.

I'm sorry I sound angry. I'm perfectly stable and happy now, but looking back it burns me up!
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I think if you can pick and choose out of dbt it can be helpful but most stuff is common sense , of course we canít see that when the world is on fire.

Personally I would not do DBT. I donít have the patience lol
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Wondering if I should take my diary cards to t tomorrow so he can fully appreciate how far I have come
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You should bring them. You can have a good discussion about the cards, and it'd be interesting to see your T's perspective. You never know, maybe you'll learn something new at the T's office that you didn't see before. And maybe he can give you some good advice/feedback about what he sees.
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I second the motion on bluebycleís recommendation! Sounds like a great idea.

I got a DBT workbook a few years back and tried to plow my way through it. It just didnít resonate for me. I ended up being more stressed out. I stayed away from self help books for a while after that. Maybe Iím in a different place now and it might be different...but my knee jerk reaction to even thinking about is NOPE!
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DBT was a reminder of skills I've learned over the years. But it all boils down to a few tools. It doesn't matter how much you think, when your in the middle of an episode, CBT, DBT, therapy groups, they can all do more harm than good. Last time I did DBT they opened what a call Pandoras box. Life past that I've realized I'll never have again. They taught otherwise, that any things possible, the futures not written. That did a lot of damage and took a lot of time and work to get my thoughts dreams and hopes squashed back into the box.

I guess the thing to remember with DBT is it's not bipolar specific. I had it in a group setting, as i think most do.My group had everyone from alcoholics to victims of narcissists. One size doesn't fit all.

Truth be told I was lucky enough that my DBT teacher had a bipolar partner. I learned more from her than the course itself.
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