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Old 09-29-2017, 03:58 PM   #731
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Old 09-29-2017, 06:19 PM   #732
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I know precisely how you feel. There's one guy around the tables who always says, "It sure beats puking." Maybe not a new (or appropriate) line, but being mentally fit is surely a blessing after living in a fog for so many years.
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Old 09-29-2017, 07:08 PM   #733
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My fog didn't lift when I quit for 18 months so I am not holding out much hope on that front. But I am in a good place with regard to mood these days and I think not having alcohol in the mix with my meds is a big part of that.
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I'm not used to being in group setting where I might share the experience of being a bipolar drunk. In the meetings I've been there is a prevalent belief that mental illness is a symptom of issues related to alcoholism. They are intertwined for me. I lose my health I may lose my sobriety. I lose my sobriety, I may lose my health. Never done it but it's a concern. Thanks for being here
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I'm not used to being in group setting where I might share the experience of being a bipolar drunk. In the meetings I've been there is a prevalent belief that mental illness is a symptom of issues related to alcoholism. They are intertwined for me. I lose my health I may lose my sobriety. I lose my sobriety, I may lose my health. Never done it but it's a concern. Thanks for being here
Both my t and pdoc see my drinking and using as self medicating. I chose my t because she has expertise in mood disorders and substance abuse. I had already stopped drinking and using when I started seeing her but it was very early in my sobriety. I was somewhat surprised when she tabled the substance abuse as an issue for now; she believes that helping me with coping skills for the ups and downs will reduce my likelihood of drinking or using more than attacking it directly as a primary problem. She believes it is secondary to mood.

We are all here struggling and sharing. Your contributions are also appreciated.
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My fog didn't lift when I quit for 18 months so I am not holding out much hope on that front.
But I remember a TERRIBLE fog the day after downing a 12 pack...I have a little fogginess due to the bipolar occasionally, but nothing like that I suffered after drinking 12 beers the night before!!! For me there was no comparison!

Closer To The Mid, I can relate to some peoples' negative attitudes about mental illness. Some even go so far as to say most meds shouldn't be allowed if you're in the program (fortunately those folks are few). I started drinking & drugging before I was diagnosed bipolar, so I think I was self-medicating to some extent. If I hadn't been bipolar, I still think I would have been an alcoholic because of my family history. I hear what you're saying about sobriety & mental illness as being inter-related, though.
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Being hung over definitely kicked the fog up a notch. The headache, queasiness and clouded thinking layered over the existing fog made me pretty useless. I don't think my fog is alcohol or drug related because I had not done drugs in a few years and wasn't drinking much when it rolled in. It seemed to come with a major depressive episode about 25 years ago and has never cleared.
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Being hung over definitely kicked the fog up a notch. The headache, queasiness and clouded thinking layered over the existing fog made me pretty useless. I don't think my fog is alcohol or drug related because I had not done drugs in a few years and wasn't drinking much when it rolled in. It seemed to come with a major depressive episode about 25 years ago and has never cleared.
I understand, UpDownAround. You wrote about this on another thread, I think. It sounds quite annoying, but at least your general mood is imporving due to some changes & your practice of CBT. Hopefully you don't have a permanent London Fog on the brain, & it will clear with the right combination of factors. Have you talked to your pdoc about a change in medications?
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Hopefully you don't have a permanent London Fog on the brain, & it will clear with the right combination of factors. Have you talked to your pdoc about a change in medications?
Yes, but she wants to go a month and make sure I stay happy with current meds as far as mood goes.
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I remember the very first time I quit drinking, it took a full 9 months for the fog to clear enough for me to job hunt, and a full year before I felt semi normal without alcohol. Everyone's different - hopefully it will clear for you.

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