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Unread 03-06-2009, 02:46 PM   #1
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Hmm, slightly unactive area... . who here has, may have or has experience with people with APD?
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Hmm, slightly unactive area... . who here has, may have or has experience with people with APD?
Haven't been dx with APD........but you know me Grayness, I am plenty anti-social!!!!
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Haha, well, I'm waiting for the test results. Meh, might as well say I'm possibly APD and possibly NPD.
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Well, I couldn't figure out how to start a new thread, so I'll reply to your Welcome Message by saying thanks, Doc!

I'm pretty certain I have a APD issue. I also have a bad case of treatment resistant depression from which I've suffered for 25 years. I've had unsuccessful ECT treatments and many drug trials. I have an unresolved sleep disorder as well. However; I write to you, here today about my problem with shoplifting. It's been going on for about a year and half and progressing. It's become a hobby. I'm a female, 44 yrs. old and every time I go into a store, I want to "get away with some thing." I feel childish and know I should be ashamed, but I love getting away with something for nothing, and with the economy so poor and us cutting back on our budget so severely, I always rationalize "buy one- take one."

I have a great therapist, but I don't want to share this with her. We have enough stuff that we are working on currently (unresolved family issues, cognitive & dialectical behavioral therapy, etc.) I fear that she will think less of me, too. It's such a stupid problem-- I can't believe that I can't figure out why I'm doing it, myself and why I can't just stop. I certainly know the unhappy end to this is getting caught, humiliated, and possibly sanctioned. It happened to me when I was in my early twenties and I had quit. Why can't I keep that in my head now and stop again? More importantly, why do I lack normal moral integrity?
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Well, I couldn't figure out how to start a new thread, so I'll reply to your Welcome Message by saying thanks, Doc!

I'm pretty certain I have a APD issue. I also have a bad case of treatment resistant depression from which I've suffered for 25 years. I've had unsuccessful ECT treatments and many drug trials. I have an unresolved sleep disorder as well. However; I write to you, here today about my problem with shoplifting. It's been going on for about a year and half and progressing. It's become a hobby. I'm a female, 44 yrs. old and every time I go into a store, I want to "get away with some thing." I feel childish and know I should be ashamed, but I love getting away with something for nothing, and with the economy so poor and us cutting back on our budget so severely, I always rationalize "buy one- take one."

I have a great therapist, but I don't want to share this with her. We have enough stuff that we are working on currently (unresolved family issues, cognitive & dialectical behavioral therapy, etc.) I fear that she will think less of me, too. It's such a stupid problem-- I can't believe that I can't figure out why I'm doing it, myself and why I can't just stop. I certainly know the unhappy end to this is getting caught, humiliated, and possibly sanctioned. It happened to me when I was in my early twenties and I had quit. Why can't I keep that in my head now and stop again? More importantly, why do I lack normal moral integrity?
The shoplifting sounds like kleptomania. I'm pretty sure there are treatment methods for it.
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Well, I couldn't figure out how to start a new thread, so I'll reply to your Welcome Message by saying thanks, Doc!

I'm pretty certain I have a APD issue. I also have a bad case of treatment resistant depression from which I've suffered for 25 years. I've had unsuccessful ECT treatments and many drug trials. I have an unresolved sleep disorder as well. However; I write to you, here today about my problem with shoplifting. It's been going on for about a year and half and progressing. It's become a hobby. I'm a female, 44 yrs. old and every time I go into a store, I want to "get away with some thing." I feel childish and know I should be ashamed, but I love getting away with something for nothing, and with the economy so poor and us cutting back on our budget so severely, I always rationalize "buy one- take one."

I have a great therapist, but I don't want to share this with her. We have enough stuff that we are working on currently (unresolved family issues, cognitive & dialectical behavioral therapy, etc.) I fear that she will think less of me, too. It's such a stupid problem-- I can't believe that I can't figure out why I'm doing it, myself and why I can't just stop. I certainly know the unhappy end to this is getting caught, humiliated, and possibly sanctioned. It happened to me when I was in my early twenties and I had quit. Why can't I keep that in my head now and stop again? More importantly, why do I lack normal moral integrity?
I am sure you have plenty of moral integrity!! Just by the nature of the fact that you recognise that it is a problem involves a conscience. The fact that you think(or don't want to) stop is because it involves dealing with an addiction or a comfort blanky. Known behaviour, especially if you get away with it, is the most comfortable(and the most stimulating!!. These are how habits are formed without us even knowing it. I am familiar with these nasty, insidious devils.

I wonder if you are doing a disservice though by not telling your therapist and i wonder if you have reverted back to it to satisfy filling a void that therapy has inadvertently reopened? Something particularly nasty that you are dealing with or discussing in length? Just a thought........

Babe, don't be so hard on yourself.......you understand the consequences and you are not morally corrupt. Just be careful and work towards telling your T.......they will not think less of you.
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Hi Michah,
Do you have bpd as shoplifting is one of the symptoms. I have exactly the same problem & find myself staying away from the shops so i dont sucumb.
But if im in a shop and the intense compulsion comes to act i do.
I've been caught 4 times and once convicted, but my doctor (psych)
helped me out with a letter stating my mental condition. Do tell your dr as
one day you might need his help one day. But dont beat yourself up...This drags you down & with me i have a battle in my head & resolve to never do it again, but wouldnt you know it...again comes around again.
You are not bad just like me need some help..so tell your dr and i hope you have some success. I can go for a long while without doing it but the chance always comes back . But i think the longer i go without doing it
each time the better.
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Sweetie, I have pm'ed you in response to your question........speak real soon......
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Sweetie, I have pm'ed you in response to your question........speak real soon......
Thanks to all you caring souls who responded to my pain. I still struggle. I struggle between wanting to share with my therapist as a couple of you have recommended I do. But, this is hard for me because there is a big part of me that does NOT want to stop. I know it is because I have been getting away with it for a while now. In fact, I got caught and went to court and stopped for a couple of decades in the past, but since it started again, it's become an addiction that I actually enjoy and feel I "need" as a function of the poor economy and my struggle with finances. Scratch that. It's not true. I don't "need" it. That's just something I tell myself to justify the acts. Actually, it makes me feel good to have the stuff and then I feel bad about myself as a human being. My boyfriend knows and says I must stop. I know he's right. I stopped telling him what I have taken when it ceased being cute. Now I feel lonely with my secret, but equally thrilled when I can save a little money on something. I don't steal expensive things either. Usually food and cosmetics... the type of stores I frequent, and get pissed about the prices and how they add up. I like the feeling that at least I have gotten one item for free.
I don't know where this confession will take me, but thank you all for your empathy and compassion.

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